E-ODIN - Diskussionsthread

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Re: E-ODIN - Diskussionsthread

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It was all still clean underneath and around the battery, dry and in the top area with the wiring.

I had installed some gardening netting around the battery (fine mesh, stops insects), under the side panels, the concept being that spray and small water splash would get caught in the net and drain back, but still allows air to breathe, dry and not cause overheating. When I first looked under it when I got the bike, I could see that splash had reached up the sides of the battery enclosure, so I think that is possible without anything there. That is why I did it. It seems to work.

I can't see evidence of a tide mark so perhaps it was only just up to the pedals. I had to lift my feet, so was focused on riding like that than fall over.

Overall, the winter riding I have been doing, and now wading, I have inspected and my waterproofing seems to have worked so far. The box behind the headlight, around the wiring, seems to be doing what it is meant to do.

The 'goat leg' :D It took me a moment to understand that as the side-stand. Yes, I think it probably just reached that. I will have to check how to bypass it in an emergency, in case that happens.

I washed up the swing arm, and then washed it again after in a bit of distilled water, I do not trust tap water alone to wash bikes, especially this one, it seems to be largely made of mild steel tubes.

I will charge up and aim to take it on a fast ride tomorrow, make sure the motor is warmed up and rid of any moisture. There was no imbalance in the wheel when I spun it up, so I don't think there is any water in it.

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Re: E-ODIN - Diskussionsthread

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bob2.0 hat geschrieben:
Fr 29. Nov 2024, 18:16
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The 'goat leg' :D It took me a moment to understand that as the side-stand. Yes, I think it probably just reached that. I will have to check how to bypass it in an emergency, in case that happens.
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There was no imbalance in the wheel when I spun it up, so I don't think there is any water in it.
Yeah, the "goat leg" is commonly known as side-stand. There is a hall-based switch at the joint of the goat leg, which pulls a sensor line to ground. So the controller "thinks" you are on the brake or the charging connector is connected to the charger (it's the same wire at my bike) and any kind of acceleration is suppressed.
It shouldn't be a problem to simply disconnect the sensor, in case of an emergency.
As far as I can remember, there is a thin yellow wire underneath the seat that can be disconnected (at least at my E-Odin 2.0)....

About any imbalance, due to water:
I don't really think that there is a great chance of water getting into the motor, especially as long as it is turning and thrusting the water while driving.
It has to be considered that the motor should be waterproof... more or less :roll: .
There should be a gasket at it's housing and even the wires are sealed with something like silicon.

Anyhow, I wouldn't recommend to drown the motor underneath the waterline for a longer period :twisted: .
Classico Li 05/2020 11 000+ km & Z-Odin 12/2021 24 500+ km :idea:

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Re: E-ODIN - Diskussionsthread

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jeff-jordan hat geschrieben:
Fr 29. Nov 2024, 19:19
Anyhow, I wouldn't recommend to drown the motor underneath the waterline for a longer period :twisted: .
It was not intended for one second! Hopefully never again.

I rode a long fast ride this morning. It was showing 70mph down hill at times. So I think everything is working OK if it can do that.

I stopped and felt the motor immediately, and it was barely warm. I think it is an efficient motor, does not get very hot.

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Re: E-ODIN - Diskussionsthread

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My motor is squeaking when the wheel turns.

I thought it was the brakes.

There is something in the motor that is squeaking and binding up, after sitting a month over Christmas.

Is this something people have found? Just ride it until it grinds itself off? Maybe rust on top of the core poles touching the magnets?

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Rust on the stator or rotor does not squeek. That makes a noise like zingzingzing in hub motors. But sealing rings of the motor bearings that are crying for lubrication will squeek...
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Rust on the stator or rotor does not squeek. That makes a noise like zingzingzing in hub motors. But sealing rings of the motor bearings that are crying for lubrication will squeek...
The wheel is actually binding.

After I gave the bike a flat out run (after the flooded road incident) and then ran it for another week and a 100 miles, it seemed fine to park it up.

Now it binds in one region of the rotation, it is not 360deg.

I'll try to post a video, if the site will accept it.

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This is an mp4, please change the file ending.

(I hope that is allowed by forum rules, apologies if not, I can delete.)
WhatsApp Video 2025-01-21 at 15.05.03.pdf
(823.07 KiB) 12-mal heruntergeladen
This is not the brake disc, I removed it and it was the same, the pads are loose in the caliper.
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Di 21. Jan 2025, 15:02
Rust on the stator or rotor does not squeek. That makes a noise like zingzingzing in hub motors.
Yes, I think that's a good description. 'Zingzing'.

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Re: E-ODIN - Diskussionsthread

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Well, I am sad, I am watching these youtube videos and clearly these things can get very rusty inside.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UmA5xmzgsM

This guy painted all of his inside, I guess he thinks QS should do this too.

This next guy says just leave it 'golden' once the metal dust is off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92aAfYXBgbg

What I have to figure out here is whether I just run the motor and let it all clean itself off and grind all that powder so it ends up stuck to the magnet in a benign place, or whether this is just going to get worse if I do it.

Can I take off the side plates for a peek? Is that a good thing to check the metal is not bubbling up and opened to water ingress, or bad thing that I give it more chance?

I am siding towards 'just run it until it is quiet again'. It sounds to me like needing a new motor anyway?

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Hallo zusammen. Weiß jemand, ob es im Raum Würzburg einen Händler gibt, der sich an die E-Odin wagt? Ich hatte einen Umfaller auf einem nicht gestreuten Parkplatz und hab vA einen verbogenen Handbremshebel und ein bisschen Lackschaden hinten an den Griffen… Ich möchte es aber schon gecheckt wissen, bevor ich damit weiter fahre, nicht dass irgendwas krumm oder verzogen ist!
Es wird wohl ein Versicherungsfall werden, da der Hausmeister nicht gestreut hat und es mehrere Unfälle dort gab! Jedenfalls suche ich jetzt eine Werkstatt! Oder macht das jede normale Werkstatt auch? Vielen Dank im Voraus! Gruß aus Bayern!
Ach so-NMD24 zu fragen macht wohl wenig Sinn, oder?🙈

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Re: E-ODIN - Diskussionsthread

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Wenn das ein Unfall war und den daraus resultierten Schaden von einer Versicherung bezahlt werden soll,
wäre es angebracht das Bike einer Zweiradwerkstatt zuzuführen, bei der ein KFZ-Sachverständiger später sein Gutachten machen kann.
Ausserdem ist es ratsam, in solchen Fällen immer zu einem Rechtsanwalt für Verkehrsrecht zu gehen, der den Sachverständigen beauftragt.
Die Gegenseite wird sich zu wehren wissen....
Insbesondere wenn (wie hier), mehrere Unfälle aufgrund der gleichen Ursache vorliegen.

Ich hatte vor Jahren mal so einen Fall mit meinem damaligen Benzinroller, wo der Unfallverursacher sogar Unfallflucht beging.
Zum Glück hatte ich eine Zeugin des Vorfalls, die sich das KFZ-Kennzeichen gemerkt hatte, anhand dessen, die Polizei den Halter fand.
Meinen Roller brachte ich am nächsten Tag, auf einem Hänger zu meinem Zweiradhändler und ich war beim Anwalt.
Am nächsten Tag, war dann ein KFZ-Sachverständiger bei meinem Zweiradhändler, der den Schaden begutachtete.
Die Versicherung des Unfallverursachers (der Fahrer zu dem Zeitpunkt war der Ehemann der Halterin des PKW), bezahlte den Schaden laut Gutachten.
Gruss Helmut

Ranis 2000 seit 08.2019 ca.15000 Km gefahren :mrgreen:
Wechsel Akku alt gegen neu bei 6600 Km, Sicherungsautomat bei 9300 Km

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