E-ODIN - Diskussionsthread

[jeff-jordan]

... But at first I am going to order 72680, I need a little bit more power to be able to overtake slow cars and actual acceleration at higher speed is not good, you know it too

... As far as I know AMR motor has encoder, not hall sensor. ...

So, do you expect that the 72680 will work with your 6kW AMR motor then?
As far as I understood the SiaEcosys/Fardriver controller doesn't support motors with encoder instead of hall sensors.

[Miguello80]

Hallo Miguello80 teilweise schöne Sachen welche du da rausgesucht hast aber ich glaube nicht, dass wir in Deutschland die Teile ohne "Probleme" verbauen können wegen z. B. TÜV und fehlender ABE.
Ich denke auch dieser Bremsenfeststeller wird unserem TÜV wahrscheinlich nicht gefallen.

I understand that and I do not want to have unnecessary problems with police or with insurance company in case of accident but I am sure that none policeman does know what original plate holder bike came with (and in case of accident insurance company would have to prove that my improvements caused the accident or at least had a part in it). In case of problem like "these turn signal lights does not have proper mark CE" (or whatever) I believe I can say "this is how bike came from factory and it has CoC list, but ok, I will change them, let me go for this time".
I know that in Germany is police usually more strict that police in Czech Republic (but here you might bump into very strict policeman with no common sense too). As I am older and older, near 43, I am more scared of different things than police and as a lawyer I believe that I would be able to convice them to do not waste time with that. By the way - changing controller is also against TUV etc. I know, this is not visible.

Für das Feststellen der Bremse zum Parken oder auch als "kleine Diebstahlsicherung" gibt es ja aber auch sowas:
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08XJR4CJG/ref ... E_SCE_dp_1#

I have brake disk lock but that brake lever lock is handy when you need to stop and do something with both hands like set navi app in phone etc. so you can not hold the brake and because bike does not have parking brake, you have to hold the bike with your shins against footpegs or get off and park it completly, not comfortable. That pin on the spring is mounted with one bolt that holds brake lever so instalation is fast and easy and for TUV can be uninstalled. In this case is my comfort more important for me than risk that police could have problem with that. There is also plastic locks but you would have to keep it in the pocket or hang it on handlebars.. bleh, I do not like it

[Miguello80]

So, do you expect that the 72680 will work with your 6kW AMR motor then?
As far as I understood the SiaEcosys/Fardriver controller doesn't support motors with encoder instead of hall sensors.

They does work with motors with encoder, there already are two or more FD controllers made specially for motors with encoders, one is for QS165 and has "B" at the end of its code name. I only have to notice it in my order so factory can set the controller to work with encoder. I do not know if that is question of hardware or firmware but I am sure that any FD can be made in factory as "for encoder", I have discussed that with far-driver.com (as I mentioned earlier, from Sia I got only "send motor to match it with controller" but it also means that it is possible).

Some sellers have this in their description:
"It’s hall version (as default) which suit with hall motors,which can't match speedometer in one-line state,like DKD speedometer. It could also support encoders, please check with sales." ___

[FieserFettsack87]

Hi, kann mir wer sagen oder zeigen, wie man das Display abbauen/reinigen kann, da ich Feuchtigkeit im Display habe und es daher immer wieder beschlägt.

Display

[Zimmermännche]

So heute habe ich an meiner Odin 3.0 mal meinen günstigen GPS Tacho ausprobiert und muss sagen ich bin positiv überrascht.
Hintergrund ist, dass der Odin - Tacho in der Toleranz ziemlich vor geht, ich habe aber keine Lust immer das Handy mit einer GPS-App laufen zu lassen oder mir ungefähr die jeweilige Abweichung zu merken.
Bei 110 km/h laut GPS zeigt meine Odin knapp 127 km/h auf dem Tacho (die Toleranzgrenze ist also ziemlich gut ausgereizt). Ist ja klar, dass auch die km abweichen.
Ich habe mich hier für einen günstigen, über USB aufladbaren, GPS Fahrradtacho entschieden und dies hat richtig gut funktioniert und ist in 1 min installiert.
Hier noch ein Bild, vielleicht ja auch eine Alternative für jemanden von euch:

[Miguello80]

UPDATE:
Today I noticed that these levers that seemed to be 1:1 to original has one problem - when you install them you need to push them a little bit into the housing / brake pump but then that part that pushes the valve in when lever is pulled already pushes the valve in a little bit even when lever is untouched. That makes problem with bleading the brakes because the valve does not come to its maximal out position and the air (and also brake fluid in the hose) can not get back into the reservoir. In the worst scenario - I saw that in one video about Harley Davidson with chinese replica brake levers - it can cause the blocking the brake because brake fluid get hot (yes, we do not ride so fast to make brake fluid so hot but it is possible), it expanses and as it can not expanse back into reservoir it makes piston push brake pads further and further and that can make the brake lock = cause the accident due to locked wheel.
I took a little bit off until replacement for actual Brembo (yes, chinese replica) lever arrives and it works as it should but wanted to add this for anyone that would like to replace original levers with these or similar. You can, just try to bleed the brakes and if it does not work, check the lever.

Original post:
Hi guys, as I mentioned earlier, I ordered new brake levers (16 euro) + brake button (10 euro) from Aliexpress. Now I can block the bike so it does not move when I need both hands (take off helmet, set navi app etc.), holding it with legs is not comfortable for me. Yes, velcro stripes or plastic brake holder in the pocket would work too but I like this solution much more.

[jeff-jordan]

I think that's a good idea.
Can you show some more details about how the brake button works and how it is installed?
It's actually not clear for me.
What prevents the brake stop from beeing pushed away by the lever... and what prevents the button going down and blocking the lever when you just use the brake?

[Miguello80]

Can you show some more details about how the brake button works and how it is installed?

Sure, here it is

- there are two tubes in package, short and longer, this is short but longer is the right one to use when brake levers have adjustment on top

Original bolt is taken off.
Then you put a brass (???) tube into the hole, it is longer than width of brake bracket (brake lever body), on this tube sits button (its mounting plate has smaller hole then tube's diameter) so thanks to that space between brake bracket and button it do not get in the way with brake lever adjustment. Because of the tube, new bolt is longer, but thinner. Nut is with rubber so it should not loosen (Loctite is a solution too).

What prevents the brake stop from beeing pushed away by the lever

Original bolt + nut squeezes brake bracket (bolt head - brake bracket - brake lever - brake bracket - nut) so it is possible a little bit eliminate wiggle of the brake lever (but it still wiggles). New levers are 11,8 mm if I remember so they fit perfectly and wiggle is much smaller (and no need to squeeze the brake bracket).
New bolt is tightened against tube and bottom side of brake bracket, not against brake bracket as before: bolt head - button mounting plate - tube that exceeds brake bracket - brake bracket - brake lever - brake bracket - nut (but force is applied from bolt head to nut squeezing button mounting plate to tube and nut to lower side of brake bracket).
After positioning button is tightened enough to do not move = resist the (small) force of brake lever. As I mentioned, thank to tube there is no sqeezing the brake bracket so it can be tightened pretty hard.

... and what prevents the button going down and blocking the lever when you just use the brake?

That pin is on the spring but in case that spring would broke and pin would be able to fall down, you have to find position of button when pin can be pushed down only when brake lever is pulled more than during riding, even when hard braking in emergency = a little bit more than when hard braking. There is very small difference in distance, 1-2 mm, not problem to find proper position.

Uff, hope you understand my explanation

[jeff-jordan]

Ok, thank you.
Seems that I got it now .

So one "trick" is the brass tube, that allows you to tighten the alloy plate of the button quite secure, so that it can't be moved accidentially... and the other one is a spring inside the button stop (I expected a mechanism with a spring somewhere, but it wasn't clear from the product description @ AliExpress).

[Miguello80]

Seems that I got it now .

Exactly ! Smart man understands even my broken English